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Hi, I bought an old Renault R 4 for 47 pounds. The registrations book is of year 1965, however the body and the engine was exchanded several times, while the number sheet stayed the same. Can you advise, what I can identify, what engine I have really? :confused: Regards from Prague :) Pavel
 
In addition to what jjad said, send us the numbers stamped on the oval plate on the bulkhead (there are 3 rows). We will try to find model year that way.
Interesting to have a R4 fan from Prague. Are there other R4s too?
 
angel said:
In addition to what jjad said, send us the numbers stamped on the oval plate on the bulkhead (there are 3 rows). We will try to find model year that way.
Interesting to have a R4 fan from Prague. Are there other R4s too?
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Hi, thank you for the reply. Unfortunately there isn´t a valid type plate on the engine. A previous owner changed the eingine and removed it´s plate, while mounted the original one. Can I find an other distinguishing mark on the eingine?
The R 4s are very rare here in Prague and in Czech Republic. I am at the beginning with them car because I never saw it from nearby. I know it from old French movies only. Pavel
 
jjad said:
Hello and congratulations on your purchase.

You need to find the engine type which is stamped on a thin strip of metal on the engine, probably near the oil filter. There should be several numbers, including the engine number and type

See these threads:

http://www.renault4.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=1090&highlight=engine+type

http://www.renault4.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=1338&highlight=engine+type

Hope that helps!
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Hello, thank you for the prompt answer. There is no way to identify the eingine, because I haven´t the right engine number available. The oval plate is not accordant with the engine. Can I find an other symbol on the engine, so I can identify it? Pavel
 
You can only identify if you have a 3-bearing (747, 782, 845cc) or 5-bearing (956, 1108cc) engine. Can you send us a photo? Did you find the place where the engine number plate was originally? If yes, where is it located? On the front end, over the ignition coil, or over the oil filter?
 
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Hello, the engine number plate is located near to the fan under the alternator. So that in front. I didn´t find any marks after the plate mounting near to the oil filter. I try send some pictures. Pavel
 
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What engine I have?

angel said:
You can only identify if you have a 3-bearing (747, 782, 845cc) or 5-bearing (956, 1108cc) engine. Can you send us a photo? Did you find the place where the engine number plate was originally? If yes, where is it located? On the front end, over the ignition coil, or over the oil filter?
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Hello, thank you. About the engine and pictures see below. Otherway the car is in catastrophic condition. What can be rusty, that´s holey, rumpled or torn off. But it goes quite good. I lost the exhaust on my first drive and the indicator light on the second one. My girlfriend declines to go round with me. I actually strap up the holes and try to weld the rest of exhaust :)
 
You have the 3-bearing engine. From what I see there is a late distributor and fuel pump (they could well have been changed). I would say 845cc.
My beloved R4s are those which, although in the worst condition, seem to drive well! It's a R4 thing, I have never seen it on other cars.
 
The engine capacity

angel said:
You have the 3-bearing engine. From what I see there is a late distributor and fuel pump (they could well have been changed). I would say 845cc.
My beloved R4s are those which, although in the worst condition, seem to drive well! It's a R4 thing, I have never seen it on other cars.
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Hello, thank you for the assessment. There is a blue oil filter in the engine and the last owner recollected, that the year of engine manufacture is 1984. Can these data help to specify the engine capacity? Pavel
 
This distributor was fitted from 1984 until 1986. If it is the original the previous owner is right. It is 845cc as this was the only "Ventoux" engine produced back then. A general photo of the engine would be more helpful!
 
Oil filter color has nothing to do with engine type! It's more of a manufacturer's issue.
 
Blue filter

angel said:
Oil filter color has nothing to do with engine type! It's more of a manufacturer's issue.
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I mentioned the oil filter colour, because I found the notice about a blue and not blue oil filters there in the chapter "tech tips" - "how to do an oil filter change". The blue filters are rare, I saw orange, white and black as yet. I will make and send a general picture of the engine tomorrow. However I ordered the new exhaust as for 845 cc, I hope it will fit :) Pavel
 
I have never seen an orange filter. Maybe they used to produce them earlier? Now even original Renault ones are black or blue. The thread is written on the filter body, some of them have a warning sticker, too.
 
General photo of the engine

angel said:
This distributor was fitted from 1984 until 1986. If it is the original the previous owner is right. It is 845cc as this was the only "Ventoux" engine produced back then. A general photo of the engine would be more helpful!
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Hi, so I send the general photo of my engine, may be you can say more. However I insured it as 845 cc. :) Pavel
 
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my vote says car itself is newer than 1965 most likely early 1980ish
 
My guess would be that it is not a 1108. In my (limited) experience, 1108cc 4s have electric fans and deeper air filters.
 
Paul I think you are right. The body has surely been replaced.
From the first photos it was clear that it was not 1108cc. The engine is "Ventoux" (3 bearing). 845cc almost for sure.
 
angel said:
Paul I think you are right. The body has surely been replaced.
From the first photos it was clear that it was not 1108cc. The engine is "Ventoux" (3 bearing). 845cc almost for sure.
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Hello, I aroused sensation with my R4 there in the vehicle testing station today in the morning. The previous owner found the original german registration papers (the log-book). There is the eingine capaciry 839 cc shown in the book. Is it a mistake? I didn´t hear about 839 cc as yet. Pavel
 
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